After a lot of sketches, changes and a lot of thought about the comments that you have added we have concluded to the following designs of the 2 small houses. Also the old stable in the middle will be transformed to an utility room for all the mechanical stuff, pv batteries, water pumps and filters etc. We hope you like them!!!
Initial drawings
The drawings are for the small House, of 45sq.m, on the upper terrace
the classical
the classical more open
modern times
modern lines
first fusion
second fusion
classical with modern lines
reduced modern lines
with pergola
The drawings are for the bigger 60sqm house
modern lines
classical
first fusion
second fusion
The small one is 45 sq m and the interior is under development but will be approximately something like this:
The drawings are for the bigger 60sqm house
(in color this time)
The interior is something like the sketch below:
i like the modern line very much but i think the reduced version could fit better in the landscape, good luck, greetings to greece, kati
ReplyDeletethe classical with a small pergola where it makes most sense would be my choice.
ReplyDeletethe importance though should be given to the function of the building and the person staying in it and not so much on its look.
because it will be used most in summer it should not have too many big openings in order to maintain a cool climate inside without spending energy to cool the ''eco-friendly'' house. the light in summer is strong enough to light the interior with small windows.
in spring and autumn people will be sitting more outside anyways and in the winter nobody will be there ;)
the classical and traditional lines of the ''design'' is what most tourists love about the island flair and there is probably something to it. the balance with nature is accomplished through the ''reason'' of the design, where everything has a purpose.
the modern touch can be given through many different small details of the design as are colours furniture, landscaping, ... if it should be your wish to make it modern. i would keep in mind that things that are modern today will not be modern tomorrow. the tradition and the ''classics'' are the same and do not change and are what give us the feeling of travelling through time and the feeling of escaping our everyday life we seek for in our vacations. something we do not have at home, something different.
i think it will be also helpful to explain the reasons of our choice in order to help everybody understand why we choose one thing over the other.
hope i could help :)
good luck
ore
classical with pergola. CV/XB
ReplyDeleteI have to go with the pergola. It completes the design and I need my plants. Since it is so windy on Tinos the pergola could be integrated into a windbreak. But I'm sure you've thought of that already. I agree with Ore's comments above about what's being modern todaay not necessarily being modern tomorrow. But then agina good design is timeless. The catch with that is that only time will tell. Large areas of glass have a habit of being problematical. You want to make the most of the light without frying people in the summer. The setting is really beautiful and everyone I've shown it to wants to go there. So you must be onto something good.
ReplyDeleteGood luck and I'm really looking forward to watching the progress you all make
Mary
I like the idea of creating something that doesn´t look out of place but also has a new element that makes it interesting. In this case using traditional style and technique but also seeing the inside and the outside as a continuum as visitors to an eco lodge will be mostly nature lovers and outdoor people. The large window in the reduced modern lines design has that element and the smaller windows and openings let the light and view in and have the typical long thin shape that you see on Tinos. Traditional Tinos houses are quite dark and enclosed. The degree of openness in this is different but doesn´t look alien. And with the pergola you have a combination of the amazing sharp light of the Aegean and the coolness of the courtyard. I like!
ReplyDeleteChristiana
If I imagine my self to be there intending to do things like working in the garden or participating on a project or workshop then my idea is:
ReplyDeleteWhen I am back at the house I need shadow, protection from the heat, protection from the wind. I dont want to open the windows, I want to keep the rooms cool. I don't need openness I need a shelter from weather, neighbors, animals.
I tend to opt for the small classical with pergola.
What I miss in our designs are curves. Everything is cubic. But when I look at the plot I see curvy terraces. When most of the interiors will be integral part of the building you don't need to stay orthogonal. A bed or a bench from concrete or stone can be curvy and smooth.
I like the modern times because you can see nice views through large windows and it lets in a lot of light. Selini.
ReplyDeleteI like best the classical drawings for both the smaller and the larger buildings, because I believe that the local traditional architecture, which characterises most villages of the island and has been developed through years of experience, should be preserved. Lily.
ReplyDeleteDESIGN (exterior):
ReplyDeleteSmall house: I strongly dismiss "modern times", "mod. lines", "2nd fusion", "reduced mod. lines". They are in violent disagreement with stone structure and of course with traditional local design. Therefore my 1st choice is "classical", 2nd "classical more open", 3rd "1st fusion".
Large house: Evidently I dismiss "mod. lines" and "2nd fusion". My choice is "classical". "1st fusion" but with light port-holes (as in"2nd fusion") above windows might be acceptable.
FUNCTIONALITY: Both houses: Considering orientation of plot and houses I understand that major view, suggesting wider openings, is from the longer east side. This is also the side mainly exposed to the morning sun for a considerable duration, acceptable in early Spring and Fall but not during Summer. Pergola is therefore necessary, permitting also to sit outside when the wind is favourable.
The south sides of the houses, looking up the hillsides, need only medium size windows to sustain the summer midday scorching sun, until it hides beyond the hills.
Lykis
color 60m "modern lines" looks great to me. The traditional stone works in good balance with the glass. Bravo.
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PS What will be the floor like?
The small windows and door of the classical version of the small one fit it so well in my eyes. The classical version of the bigger one is also the one I like the most. I don't think the small windows would feel like a limitation to me.
ReplyDeleteIn this area I don't see anything else than the classic way with a pergola, below plenty of bright shining flowers, nothing else. The house should keep cool, cosy, like a cave, to keep away from heat, wind, noise and curious people. Backwards I would like to see benches out of stone, a garden with lots of vegetable, a place for trades and handicrafts. Is there any plan for the "traffic" - where do the cars park?
ReplyDeleteGood luck for this great project.
First of all I want to let you know that I very much like the approach of your project: to open up the design process, to share ideas and thoughts, to implement green technologies and to consider the natural and cultural surrounding.
ReplyDeleteRegarding the conceptual designs I would choose a classic style but giving it a unique contemporary touch. I would do this for the following reasons:
A classic or native design of a specific place usually evolved over a long period of time and is sustainable in a very natural way: for practical reasons people used materials from the surroundings and they developed buildings that cope with the local weather conditions. The classical design is somehow timeless because of its natural, non-academic evolution. Additionally, local house building techniques have a high cultural value. Finally, in my view, the impact of house construction on the overall appearance of the landscape is far smaller when using locally rooted designs.
The question now is how to find a way to combine theses advantages of the native building style with the contemporary architectural aspects. I find it a great challenge because you neither want to simply copy ancient buildings nor construct alien architecture into such an impressive landscape. I think the “classical more open” or “reduced modern lines” go in an interesting direction. The “reduced modern lines” seem to be quite far from the native design, since the large glass windows are far from historic window dimensions. But since this is a touristic project we want light inside, in summer less but at least some, and a good view to the outside. There is one aspect that helps reducing the tensions between ancient and contemporary styles as well as the future view on what will be build today: plants. Nothing is more timeless since vegetation was there before humans arrived. Trees and bushes near the house and the pergola with climbing plants providing shade and shelter from wind and sun helps to reduce the “non-classic” and non-native charisma of larger windows.
In my view there is one more challenge I would like to address. Since the houses will probably be used mainly in spring, summer and autumn but perhaps occasionally in winter too, it's not all about keeping the heat outside but also to let the sun heat the buildings in the cooler seasons. A possible solution may be the integration of solar passive house features into the design. That means you will have to think about large window overhangs that only let sunbeams inside, when the altitude of the sun is low, i.e. in late autumn, winter and early spring. But the integration of passive house features may collide with other architectural aspects such as the pergola, window design, etc.
Since the houses are exposed to east and south it would be interesting to think about a passive house design which, for example uses a large window to the south that will be covered with a wooden window shutter that may only be opened during the evening and in cooler seasons. You probably already thought about window shutters, since it's a common thing in the Mediterranean but so far I don't see any in the drafts. Another way to keep the heat out in summer and use it in winter would be a modifiable cover of the pergola. You may use climbing plants that will lose their leaves in autumn. Additional rush mats that can be applied in summer and removed in winter could help. The question is how much additional effort will have to be put into the passive house design and will the houses be sufficiently frequented in the cooler season to profit from the positive (energy saving) aspects of a passive house?
to be continued below.
continuation from above:
ReplyDeleteI like your plans of rain water utilization and water recycling through a reedbed sewage system. Further questions would be how you implement solarthermic and photovoltaic panels into the designs and maybe wind power stations on the property? There are opposing opinions on the impacts of these technologies on the scenery and some say you don't want e.g. wind turbines in a landscape like that. But as far as I understand there is a great potential of renewable energy sources on the island, especially wind and sun. It would be wise to use it. To reduce the negative impacts I would build small scale wind turbines out of sight from the buildings right next to the street or parking site...
I wish you a good start of the project and I'm most interested about the upcoming ideas and developments!
Jan
I prefer the modern for both houses, because it's unusual, radical, not boring, without losing the traditionality and the harmony with the landscape.
ReplyDeleteEfi
hi housebuilders!
ReplyDeletei like the classical version with pergola the most - i think a pergola or smth like that is absolutely necessary and gives every house-facade a more beautiful view! for the big house i thend towards modern lines - i think as the house gets bigger it becomes more possible to work with new facade-typologies and it seems very interesting to me to have a traditional way of building the house and a modern facade. this is making a kontrast which i would like to see! so i m following ur project with great interest!
greets from B-town
letti